A couple of days ago, on 1 April 2011, I posted a brief blogpost setting out why "skepticism" was just another cult.
It was, of course, an April Fools' joke.
However, the joke consisted of two parts, the second more subtle and (for me) entertaining than the first.
There was the post itself. It was intended to have a superficial plausibility. However, anyone aware that I am founder and convener of Westminster Skeptics and on the Editorial Board of The Skeptic (as well as a speaker at numerous Skeptics in the Pub groups), should have at least twigged that I was not being entirely serious.
Nonetheless, the post was taken seriously by quite a few people, especially on Twitter. Scalps included - wonderfully - David Aaronovitch (author of the excellent Voodoo Histories), who assured me that his experience of Skeptics in the Pub groups was quite contrary to any cultist behaviour.
Others taken in by the post were various earnest sorts, many of whom not entirely supportive of skeptics and our ways.
(By "skeptic" in its American spelling, I mean those affiliated with Skeptics in the Pub, The Skeptic magazine, and such things, and those self-defined as "skeptics" who promote an evidence-based and critical approach to questions where such an approach can be applied. Apart from the self-conscious use of the term, there should not really be any practical difference between skepticism and scepticism.)
The second part of the joke was a little more subtle.
This blog has pre-moderation for its comments. However, and somewhat naughtily, I did not set out my "comments moderation" policy at the foot of the post (as I usually do). Then, for the rest of the morning, I only published comments which did not spoil the April Foolery.
Some of the comments which were published that morning were deliciously sombre and worthy; others were clearly clever and ironic. But quite soon, the apparent fact that none of the commenters were "getting the joke" was itself becoming an issue on Twitter.
But those guffawing at the lack of intelligence and awareness of the commenters were as much April Fools as the tricked commenters themselves.
For every one who fell for the original post, there were at least five who fell for the seeming lack of intelligent and aware commenters. Somehow, people wanted to believe that people could be that stupid
By noon, only about a dozen commenters were taken in. In the meantime, I had received - but not published - over a hundred comments by those who had seen the joke. (All those comments are now published, and so it is now difficult to distinguish the fooled comments.)
So not a bad result for a brief April Fools' post.
However, the question lingers: is skepticism a "cult"?
Have I unwittingly spoken truth in jest?
Some people are even maintaining that my subjective intention is irrelevant: like a Shakespearean Fool on April Fools' Day, I have said many a true word...
Of course, one cannot logically refute such an allegation by a simple denial.
But I can set out why I do not believe it to be true, and I will contend that the very fact of my hoax blogpost evidences that skeptics are perfectly capable of the self-criticism and self-awareness which is inconsistent with "cultist" thinking.
Anyone who organises or attends skeptic events will know the force of what I have said elsewhere, that "when cats complain, they complain of herding Skeptics".
The only thing which most "skeptics" seem to have in common is an instant readiness to tell someone else that they may well be wrong. And there is no immunity from this even if one professes oneself a skeptic.
The seeming adulation that is granted to the likes of Ben Goldacre or Richard Dawkins is not universal amongst self-defined skeptics. There is instead a self-correcting mechanism to stridency and fervour, and my blogpost is a small part of that. By suggesting that skepticism was a cult, I am - perhaps paradoxically - showing a very un-cultish approach to facets of the skeptic phenomenon. But I am certainly not the only one, for example hear Frank Swain speak about the problems of skepticism - to a pub full of skeptics.
One must admit that there are certain ultimate positions, such as homeopathy or creationism, which are unlikely to be held by anyone adopting an evidence-based and critical approach. One must concede that such ideas are derided.
But even in those cases, the emphasis in skepticism is to ask for the evidence and to scrutinise the reasoning. Any homeopath or creationist who wants to offer evidence and reasoning will be heard.
And skepticism is also not the same as atheism, though there is an overlap in supporters. There are certain metaphysical questions which do not admit easily (or at all) to a rational analysis. All one can say is that there is no good evidence for, or no way way of proving, such propositions.
One can conceive of a skeptic Christian or supporter of a form of complementary health: the important thing is how those views are treated and tested, not that those views are held at all. I do not believe in gods or ghosts or fairies at the bottom of my garden, but I will admit the possibility of their existence, and I can tell you what I will need to see as evidence. That is the essence of skepticism.
There is no sense in saying skeptics are a cult. There isn't even a skeptic movement, in any meaningful way. There are various skeptic groups, websites, and publications; and there are those who go along (or not) and self-define as "skeptics". But there are not any "leaders" or "congregations" or even "holy texts". There are some who bother to organise events, some who put their views out for challenge, and there are certain texts one recommends to those who may share an interest. But all that is true of many groupings generally: it does not add up to a cult.
As I said, trying to get any coherence with constantly-questioning people is a struggle, and I am amazed there is any organisation at all.
One could almost say that skepticism could actually do with becoming more cultish; but I will perhaps save that suggestion to next year...
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So.. is Ronaldo being sold to Spain, or what?
An hour-and-a-half in, and No Comments published yet?! I suspect Jack of Kent is having his tea ...
Well, I didn't get a chance to comment on Friday - had a morning-long meeting. So belated Congratulations on a multi-layered trompe le monde from one of the nicest leaders this-movement-that-isn't doesn't have.
There are indeed Christian skeptics - some even come to SITP - and reasonable and nice people they are too, at least I think so. *** And as you say, there is quite an overlap between atheists and skeptics. However, A-theism is also based on faith since we have no way of proving there is no god. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack, so logically the skeptical position on faith should be agnostic - quoting you: "... but I will admit the possibility of their existence, and I can tell you what I will need to see as evidence."
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*** at this point I went and got the washing in. The light was still bright and the air was warm, but I just went straight out. To be honest, I didn't really think about it at all, I just did it. By the time I finished, rain was falling quite hard. Oooh am I psychic? A fortune-teller? Well, no, but my hindbrain probably sensed the change in pressure that meant a front was coming through and had the muscles in motion before the conscious bit realised. I suspect a lot of psychic experiences are down to us subconsciously picking up signs so subtle we can only recognise them if our brains dress them up in some way. I've had a few other experiences like that, but they can wait for a flickering fire and a cold night outside ...
It's the need to assert one's skepticism that always rankles me. Natural scepticism is a default position of a rational mind. Declaring one's self a sleptic is akin to the Chris Rock gag about the dad declaring he'd never been to prison with a sense of accomplishment.
I'm deeply suspicious of the need for people to assert their skepticism as a personal accomplishment too. It's an exclusive position, a label which unnecessarily denotes what should be normal as something worthy of notice or merit.
To push the Chris Rock analogy into dangerous waters I guess I love sceptical people but I hate "skeptics".
Good gag though. ;-)
@KateKatV We use the Greek word 'theist' to mean one who believes in a deity or deities. The negative of this - atheist - simply means godless. An agnostic is not convinced that there is a god and is therefore an atheist. Atheism does not imply dogmatism.
Hail Sagan
"Skeptic" is indeed one of those few English words that works better in the American spelling. This must be because "sceptic" would demand a hard "c" after an "s", which is not something that sits comfortably in English pronunciation, and which could lead to "sceptic" and "septic" becoming confused in the spoken language.
Such confusion could have disastrous consequences. For example, if there were to be a think-tank of skeptics, it could end up being a "sceptic-tank" rather than a "skeptic tank". And those whose beliefs have no need for evidence such as homeopaths and astrologers might be not so much anti-skeptic as anti-septic.
The word "cult" on the other hand, is unlikely to ever be interchanged with "kult" - a moderately successful anti-theist '80s Polish rock band.
@stephenemoss on Twitter.
@Andy Saul
That may be true in the strictest etymological sense, but the popular definitions of those words have moved on since ancient Greece.
I prefer to judge whether a group is dogmatic on the evidence of their members' behaviour, rather than ancient definitions of words taken to their literal extremes.
@Andy Saul
Atheist and Agnostic do not mean quite the same thing and to conflate them loses a valuable distinction. Atheist refers to the belief there is no god, whereas agnostic refers to the belief that nothing can be known of the existence of god (without a god v. without mystical knowledge). There is no reason why one should not be both agnostic and atheist, or indeed agnostic and theist ("I do not know whether there is a god but I believe there is not / is").
However agnostic is often used to mean questioning or uncertain as whether there is a god, atheist that someone has made up their mind there is not. Logically, everyone should be agnostic since no-one can possibly know for certain whether or not there is a god. However, a lot of people are very secure in their belief - whether that is theist or atheist.
@Stephen Moss
Indeed! As someone with dyslexia I find the K very helpful. It caused some mirth among my friends when I referred to a cut turning sceptic.
@KateKatV:
Technically, most atheists are agnostic. Dawkins certainly is.
"A friend, an intelligent lapsed Jew who observes the Sabbath for reasons of cultural solidarity, describes himself as a Tooth Fairy Agnostic. He will not call himself an atheist because it is in principle impossible to prove a negative. But "agnostic" on its own might suggest that he thought god's existence or non-existence equally likely. In fact, though strictly agnostic about both, he considers God's existence no more probable than the Tooth Fairy's. Hence the phrase Tooth Fairy Agnostic. Bertrand Russell used a hypothetical teapot in orbit about Mars for the same didactic purpose. You have to be agnostic about the teapot, but that doesn't mean you treat the likelihood of its existence as being on all fours with its non-existence."
- http://richarddawkins.net/articles/117
By the same measure I also am agnostic about a very wide range of vastly improbable beings. I am comfortably secure in my beliefs that Santa is not real, that no superhuman entity called Odin ever actually existed, and that Russell's teapot is not hurtling through space in its elliptical orbit. It is entirely within reason to acknowledge that something is not impossible and yet speak and lead life in such a way as to deny its existence. We balance our budgets against our paychecks, not against our future Lottery winnings.
I, for one, welcome our new septic overlord.
I think you fell foul of "Poe's Law", a little: parody can fall flat when the reader has already seen the same kind of thing done with a straight face. There are people out there who really do talk like that, who think "skepticism" is a cult and is equivalent to "atheism", because that is all they know about how groups of people operate. The idea that people can freely associate and exchange ideas, without some overriding authority to keep them in line, is alien to them: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
I guess parody needs to be more, well, parodic, and less grounded in reality. The Onion does it pretty well, for example - more hyperbolic! 8)
Splendid Sir! I very much enjoyed the April Fool's gag when it happened but didn't comment simply because I wanted to keep revisiting the comments of those who plainly hadn't got it.
Certainly a much better and more informative and eye-opening prank than any other I saw this year.
@KateKatV
Atheism is a lack of belief in god, not a belief in the lack of god.
This is an important distinction in the context of the post. The first statement is a skeptical position, the second is cultist.
I reject agnosticism because that implies a 50/50 position. Read about Bertrand Russell's celestial teapot: You cannot disprove it, but that doesn't make it likely to be there.
@ Andy Saul
Thanks for acknowledging there is a difference between atheist and agnostic.
+ @ Michael Grayer and @ Quirk
Yes indeed, the meanings of words segue over time. However sometimes it is useful to remind ourselves of etymologies - without a god v. without mystical knowledge is a valuable distinction.
Some atheists might well be agnostic (e.g. me) but I have met some pretty dogmatic atheists in my time.
Ha, this explains it. I went so far on Friday as to type in a comment along the lines of "I can't believe that so many are falling for an obvious April Fool's, and that nobody has has yet mentioned the date" and then didn't submit it because I thought it might spoil the fun. I should have guessed that filters were in place to keep out spoilers.
@BrianT
"There are people out there who really do talk like that, who think "skepticism" is a cult and is equivalent to "atheism", because that is all they know about how groups of people operate. The idea that people can freely associate and exchange ideas, without some overriding authority to keep them in line, is alien to them: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Or perhaps they've just read lots of Bad Science forum posts, and lots of CiF comments underneath Ben Goldacre articles in the Guardian.
Perhaps they've also noted the mind-blowing arrogance of the likes of Richard Dawkins - who even stoops to anti-Semitic conspiracy theory when it suits him:
""When you think about how fantastically successful the Jewish lobby has been, though, in fact, they are less numerous I am told -- religious Jews anyway -- than atheists and [yet they] more or less monopolize American foreign policy as far as many people can see. So if atheists could achieve a small fraction of that influence, the world would be a better place."
A quote many atheists would probably rather forget.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-berreby/richard-dawkins-jewish-qu_b_68644.html
@KateKatV:
Were we to ask you if Santa Claus existed, I suspect you'd come across as fairly "dogmatic" in your denial. No? And yet Santa is rather less violent to physics than most deities, being a corporeal carbon based lifeform responsible for a fairly limited stash of miracles.
It's worth acknowledging once in a while that Santa is not actually an impossible being, but it's a distinction that exists mainly in the realm of pedantry. Santa and his kin are still effectively impossible, and those who blur the line between effectively impossible and actually impossible are much less at fault than those who seek to promote hypothetical possibility into a reason for being genuinely indecisive about some entity's existence.
Or, in other words, the agnostic who is not sure one way or the other but tends slightly in one direction is much more wrong than the dogmatic atheist. The actual probability is a vanishingly small fraction greater than zero, and estimating it directly at zero comes closer to the reality than estimating it somewhere near 50%.
It may not be a cult, but a ...... trend?
I think it was very cleverly put together and as I said April Fool gave you the back door to keep your place in the skeptic camp.
However, what you wrote mirrored what a great many people out there believe to be true especially of groups such as the Nightingale Collaboration. So my thoughts on your AF post could run like this:
'Interestingly your understanding of the situation would suggest that you can either see that side of the argument quite clearly and chose to ignore it, or understand that side of the argument and because it does not fit your agenda/ current opinion, find it extremely humorous and therefore possibly even an excuse to treat those who hold that view with some disdain. Interesting, I wonder what you were like
as a kid?'
Either way it may show a bit of a personality quirk which, having read your previous posts, I didn't believe you had. It would seem that April 1st is not just the beginning of a new tax year, but possibly also a new understanding of JoK.
But 10/10 for content and an understanding of subject matter lol
I think it was very cleverly put together and as I said April Fool gave you the back door to keep your place in the skeptic camp.
However, what you wrote mirrored what a great many people out there believe to be true especially of groups such as the Nightingale Collaboration. So my thoughts on your AF post could run like this:
'Interestingly your understanding of the situation would suggest that you can either see that side of the argument quite clearly and chose to ignore it, or understand that side of the argument and because it does not fit your agenda/ current opinion, find it extremely humorous and therefore possibly even an excuse to treat those who hold that view with some disdain. Interesting, I wonder what you were like
as a kid?'
Either way it may show a bit of a personality quirk which, having read your previous posts, I didn't believe you had. It would seem that April 1st is not just the beginning of a new tax year, but possibly also a new understanding of JoK.
But 10/10 for content and an understanding of subject matter lol
Isn't "cult" a bit of a straw man? "Tribe" on the other hand...
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